Tracksuit by Jebediah lyrics

Well I don’t want to make things bad
But these last few weeks are the worst I’ve had
And that’s really sad, it’s really sad, you know – woah!

Because I knew what we were gonna say
And I didn’t want it to end that way
Like on a winters day, but that’s okay
Because I’ve got my tracksuit ready on

Don’t give me your friends
Yeah they’re driving me round the bend
I just wanted some time alone
So we could sort this thing out, lifes a rolling stone

So I’ll take you for an elephant ride
And I’ll show you things that I feel inside
Yeah that’s what I’ll do, cos I like you
And I don’t wanna let things slide


So I hope everything’s alright
Because I know I won’t see you tonight
I just turn out the light and fall asleep
Without a peep

And when I wake up with my tracksuit on
Well then I’ll know that you’ve been away too long
So I’ll play a song, I’ll play a song
And I’ll dedicate it just for you

Can we still be friends
Yeah that’s all that we’ve got in the end
But I’ve been secretly holding out
That some day you will say you want more than that

So I’ll take you for an elephant ride
And I’ll show you things that I feel inside
Yeah that’s what I’ll do, cos I like you
And I don’t wanna let things slide


Leo’s Top 5 Perth Songs From The 90s

Top 5 Songs I liked back in the 90’s when I was more indie than now…

1. Cinema Prague – Finale
Cinema Prague were one of the first bands I discovered on the local scene. A friend gave a mix of two of their CD’s. It took me a while to warm to them. It wasn’t until I saw them live at city farm in 1998 headlining a gig with a band called Eskimo Joe playing before them. I was blown away by their playing. Amazing musos.

Finale was released in the nordensost in 1998 I like this one the best because it’s about the end..,.what ever that ending may be. It’s just a great fun song, which sums up Prague. Nicely.

‘In the end, I’ll probably cry, when I have to say goodbye.’

2. Three Orange Whips – French Movie
I was a mad three orange whips fan. Almost to the point of embarrassment. I danced to the front of the Grosvenor with one other person – prozac boy – early 1998. I’d fallen for another local band. At first appearance I described them as interesting punk band- they definitely were more a solid rock ‘n’ roll band. They were messy, but a fantastic live band which was so entertaining, you never knew what would go wrong at a whips gig…but something always did and it was always unexpected but hilarious.

French Movie was released on their debut ep ‘ladies and gentleman’ it was also on the WAMI Compilation of 1999. It’s a great pop song.

3. Turnstyle – I’m A Bus.
If there was one band that epitomised the indie perth scene of the late 90s. They were so indie. I really liked them, they were nerdy and uncool that they were lovable. They had some top pop songs. I’m a Bus even had a dance written along to it with dance steps and all.

Please email me if you still remember how to do it.

4. Jebediah – Feet Touch The Ground
This was a track of The Jebs second album ‘of someday shambles’. After their successful first album. It was probably the most personal of Jebediah’s songs and for that reason i liked it. It’s a sad song but well written.

5. Team Jedi – Beat Inside Your Mind
Something about this song struck me. It was during team jedi’s keyboard stage. When they probably sounded most cheesy but the keyboards really worked well on the moodier songs, and it’s my favourite period of the band. This song was track 7 on their second EP and it was sung by their drummer, not the lead vocalist.

Great track. About minds. They’re pretty amazing minds you know.

Team Jedi, yeah they were alright…for an emo band. Of course the emo tag didn’t exist then.But this song’s a good un.

Leo Says: Remember 1999?

Remember 1999?

Eskimo Joe were still a joke band, the loft was the place to go after gigs, The Grosvenor was the main venue in town. The Rosemount had the stage the other side of the room, with that big pole on the stage. John Butler played regularly mid week at Mojo’s. There was a colour WAMI booklet sponsored by iinet advertising ‘Fast 56k modems’.

Amplifier didn’t exist. 78 Records still had free gigs upstairs every Saturday and Sunday afternoons. Sleepy Jackson were called You Am I ripoffs and no one really knew who the lead singer was, let alone that he had a sister.

Bands moved to Melbourne to break up.

Everyone wondered what would happened after midnight on December 31st. Y2k bug was the topic everyone had an opinion. A time of paranoia? 1999 was perhaps the only year, where people planned their new year’s eve, 9 months before hand.

Three Orange Whips drank a lot of beer and also played a lot of shows, love Camp 7 shared considerable amount of bills with them. they covered a song from each other’s band.

Warped came to town, and there were a few non-punk bands. Pop-punk was at it’s height of popularity.

The last Mudslinger was held at Murdoch Uni. A new festival called Rock-It was started by the same promoters, the first one being held in Joondalup.

It was a pretty rad time, now I think about it.

Leo Says: You’re crap unless you are on the radio

I read someone’s blog a few months ago. They said they heard a local performer and was surprised how good he was. They said they thought people who didn’t get played on (commercial) radio were no good, but this guy was actually good.

It seems this is not an uncommon thought. For example Bob Evans is now getting played on commerical radio (including 94.5 and sunshine I’m told0 and is pulling big crowds. Well deserved success. He’s pulling big crowds and people love hearing his album songs live.

The odd thing is, performers often perform previews of albums up a to year before the album is released. Quite a few of the songs of ‘suburban songbook’ i heard in early 1995 at a wami show. Also, eskimo joe’s new album is massive. And it costs something like 30 dollars to see them. yet Kav was playing solo shows around Perth for less than ten dollars playing most of the songs from ‘blackfingernails, Red wine’ in the year before it was released.

So I guess the morale of this column today, is don’t wait until a band gets played on the radio, if someone tells you a band is awesome (Like Dee Dee Dums – they were awesome at the swan last night) go and check them out. You don’t need to own an album or hear them on 96fm and fork out 30 bucks and be in a squashed shitty nightclub, to see a good show.

Leo Says: Why Music?

I put the question to the crew on the message board the other day, so now I’d thought I write my answer in a blog.

Why music? Well, it simply gets me through the tough times, it cheers me up when I need it, it gives me somthing to look forward to, when nothing else can, it makes me laugh and get excited when I want to. And most of all it inspires me to be a better person.

When i was 16, I spent a lot of time sick and when I was recovering, i began to go walking with a walkman on. It wasn’t so much the exercise, but the joy of listening and being able to think and letting the music become the soundtrack to whatever was going on with my life. The music got me through a lot of hardship.

A few years later, I began to play guitar and then took interest in more guitar-orientated music. Then I followed the progress of Jebediah on the local scene, and began to discover many other acts and suddenly it was not only something that i would do at home, but a huge part of my social life on the weekend, where I would frequent 2 or 3 gigs every weekend.

Nowadays it’s grown to more than that. It’s become something that is with me all the time. I have so many thoughts about music, it’s embarrassing. I spent so much time doing music related tasks, including this website, i continue to ask myself why? I wonder if my music related obsessiveness may seem boring to others, but who cares? I love it!

I hope you’re enjoying Perth Sounds and the new look.
Leo Abbs

Happy Birthday Gavin!!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY GAVIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The long time local music fan and guitarist for walk-in dolphin celebrates his birthday today.

Perth Sounds wish you all the best Gav, and we hope that you have a great day!

‘You’re my friend
Your smile lights up the room’

10 Years of Jebediah: Part One 1995/96

Jebediah played their first show at Leeming Senior High School Ball in 1995. Which also happened to be my year 12 ball. The night was at the Sheraton and the band went on after the dj had played music after the dinner. After the first song by Jebediah, the previously full dance floor had cleared. There was no indicatiion then or during the night that the band would be signed to Sony within a year.

The first gig by the band was mainly covers – featuring such popular bands of the time as Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Offspring, You Am I and Green Day. I’m pretty certain they got the gig through being friends with a member of the ball committee, as they were previous students of the school.

On the Monday after the ball, I can remember sitting round in Theatre class discussing the night with everyone including the teacher who said after hearing off many people’s disappointments that perhaps we ‘should have got slim jim and the fatts instead’. After grunge songs were the easiest to dance to (i can remember moshing to Nirvana and Pearl Jam in our tuxedos).

Jebediah played a few gigs over the next few months before entering the campus bands competition. I didn’t attend any of the performances but I can remember following their progress in Xpress and one theatre class someone brought in a recording of their campus band final from the radio.

I got a copy of the tape and listened to it a few times. It didn’t blow me away – mainly because the vocals which were irritating and very nasally. To me, Kevin showed better ability as an actor at the time (he starred in a production that year with Clinton Voss from Ship to Shore).

When you know the people in a band, you always take more notice and I think that was gave me the patience to look past the vocals and give the songs a go. So much that I was keen to see them live and besides that school ball – i’d never seen an original band play before.

My first original gig was an allages show that December at the Planet nightclub in North Perth. I wanted to see Ammonia as I had recently bought their mint 400 album. It just happened that Jebediah were supporting which was a bonus as I’d been giving that campus band tape a few listens. I liked ‘ferris wheel’ and ‘you’ the best.

Seeing the jebs I was quite disappointed – the music sound messy and the vocals reminded me alot of Green Day. Though I enjoyed Ammonia alot and the whole experience was fantastic – jsut watching how all the people reacted to the music. People could jump around or sing along. A step up from jsut listening to music on my walkman.

In 1996 the Jebs continued to rise in popularity. I began to get hooked on local music without even going to any shows (had no one to go with) and would read xpress weekly. There would always be reviews of Jebediah most of them positive.

A few months later Jebediah released their ep ‘Twitch’. I can remember walking into 78s and seeing in big writing ‘Attention Pop Freaks: The Jebediah EP is here.’ Of course out of curiousity I had a listen – three of the songs were the same as that campus bands set. Initially I wasn’t that impressed though later on I bought the ep. My favourites were again ‘Ferris Wheel’, ‘and ‘Tracksuit’.

I saw the band twice not long after the release – supporting two of my favourite bands of the time You Am I and silverchair. Both times were similar to previous Jebs live experiences I didn’t enjoy it as much. Sure they jumped around and the crowd was going crazy but kevin would go into green day mode and I would lose interest.

I’m sure they would have been stoked about the you am i support as it was Kevin who introduced me to this ‘great’ band called you am i at a theatre show a week the school ball. You Am I became my favourite band for quite a few years and were at the time of the show which was at Boans Warehouse in East Perth. It seems incredible now; 18 bucks for You Am I, Powderfinger and jebediah!

The silverchair show was at the Ent Centre and it was surreal being so far back and seeing the guys play on a massive stage in front of a huge crowd. I remember Chris sprinting to the front of the stage during one of the songs, obviously very excited about playing in such a large venue.

I couldn’t but help think of Kevin saying before the ball the year before about what covers they would play, ‘we’re not fucking playing any silverchair’ and here they were supporting them.

That year I was involved in organising a charity concert for world vision (held at St Mary’s in karrinyup) which was where I was to mext hear a Jebediah song live. By a bunch of 16 year old school kids covering ‘Smiler’!

Around that time there was a tv show called Recovery which i discovered one morning after watching rage only to see Jebediah opening the show with ‘Bennedict’ which I’d read in an xpress review ‘the best pop song written in Perth’ or words along those lines. The band was having all the fun – now TV. I was so jealous but happy for them at the same time.

Blast from the past – Love Camp 7

One Saturday in May 1998, I was wondering what to do that night when a friend told me they were going to Coakley’s in Fremantle for a tape (bands don’t seem to release those much any more, do they?) launch by love camp 7. having nothing else to do I decided to go and convinced another friend to come with me.

Anyway i get to do the door and I bought a tape – i think it was included in the entry or just ridiculous cheap. ANyway the support bands were crap…and there were some real morons in the crowd, so we went elsewhere for a drink, promising to come back later for the headliner.

We got back just before to see them set up and I remember them starting and the singer being in a shit mood yelling stuff at the mixer. It turned out to be a punk band which wasn’t my cup of rock and cos the sound was shite…we left early.

Listened to the tape the next day. Crap recording…the booklet was amusing if amateur. I didn’t seem to listen to more than 3 minutes of it so i gave it to a friend. I also found out that the gig had finished early because the singer had thrown a beer glass at the mixer. An intelligent thing to do..I didn’t think i’d ever see the band again.

Six months later, the three orange whips had scored a good support of eskimo joe who were just back from an australian tour and sweater had been played about ten times a day while they’d been a way. So i went for the whips and it was love camp 7 opening. I watched out of the fact its a loud pub…still a punk band. But unlike my friend who said they sounded like mach pelican i didn’t agree.

later in the night, this guy came up to me. Seemed really friendly and started chatting to me saying he’d seen me round and i said ‘where do I know you from?; and he said love camp 7 and all i could think of was the glass throwing incident and surprised that he was actually nice. I guess we all make mistakes. Mike was his name.

It was after this love camp (will leave the 7 out from now) played with the whips every bloody week so i saw them more and still wasn’t interested. Meh punk.

Around Christmas a friend sent me some the 5 songs off the cd they had just released, I’m not sure why i gave them another go, probably because the girl who sent them was a big fan. Anyway i listened to them a few times (they were short songs so it was about half an hour) and my brother walked in the room and said sarcastically ‘good singer!’ I just laughed but the songs had grown on me.

In the first 1999 Love Camp seemd to be at every gig i went to simply because they were either playing with bands i wanted to see or my friends wanted to see. I can remember them playing five gigs in one weekend which is a bit insane…more so the fact I was at three of them. Being surrounded by their noise both online and at gigs and listening to those mp3s alot, i bought their cd. The cover a spoof of Jebeidah’s cd…quite funny. The stand out was ‘i’d like to see him go 20 rounds with Satan in a fistfight’. Though I must i related more to ‘where’s me um’.

Being the good buddies they were with the whips they decided to record each other’s songs. Love Camp 7 chose French Movie (the best whips songs) and the whips chose smashomaniac (one of the average love camp ones) and they were going to release some split vinyl. Instead they just ended up on their next releases.

Anyway I pestered Mike to play french movie for a while.. The first time was at the greenwich when i called it out a request and he told me to jokingly fuck off. Being tired on the sunday afternoon i decided to walk out and called out ‘ok i will fuck off, cya Mike’. A bit rude but it was love camp 7 and their joke punk piss people off but they are only messing about. Fair enough.
I did finally get to hear their cover at a gig later on at the grosvenor and it was dedicated to me which was nice. Made up for the earlier Greenwich incident.

They were going to release an album in 1999. It took ages to come out because it was going to be a double launch with the whips. The cd launch never eventuate, primarily I believe because the whips cd was never ready. When it did come out, I was offered a free copyof the album called ‘Clean Em All’ and when I showed up at a gig, the cd had been left at home.

I went overseas for a month and came back and bought the cd one day. On a bad day it made me smile. Another spoof this time Metallica. What wit. It was pretty dodgy recording but their were some pretty decent songs. For a punk band anyway. Most of them i knew but never had known what they’d been singing about before. My favourites include ‘Steamin’ French Demon’ (about Phil a friend of there’s who was at lots of their gigs) ‘.I don’t need no friends cos I got Jack Daniels’ and the ‘reggae version of ‘i like this way’. Also there were some good piss taking metal songs that were a laugh. Oh and the whips cover was pretty crappy.

There comes a time in a joke band’s life when they realise that they’d like to write ‘serious’ songs .It seemed that in 2000 when i saw love camp 7 they played the cd songs and they went down well and the new stuff was actually had a bit more depth but took a few listens. Apparently they were happier with these songs than the older joke songs which obviously lost their humour for them.

They had a lot of lineup troubles that year… the bass player left for a while, but was coming back so they soldiered on without him. WHich meant they kept gigging with or without their replacement bass player. I didn’t catch the bassless shows but i saw them do a ‘country’ set once and lets just say good thing i wasn’t reviewing that gig for a steet press. ‘Cos it was awful.

Yes there were plenty of good Love Camp 7 shows… them supporting Jebediah at the amplifier in July that year was a highlight. They always had good stage presence and the between song banter always made the crowd laugh and the covers that were pulled off by anthony the bass player such as ‘don’t worry be happy’ were hilarious. Not to mention the many allages they played where they went down a treat. Schoolboy Humour I guess.

Towards the end of that year the band fell to pieces. The drummer left and they got a new one but Mike the singer wanted to go to melbourne and when the rest of the band decided not to, it meant the end of another local band i’d seen way too much. I miss those gigs. The soundtrack to many nights around that time when their silly humour allowed me to escape the stress of otherwise troubled times.

Insert suitable emotional lyric here (if only they’d had good lyrics..).

Venue Profile: Swan Basement

Where is the venue situated?
In lush North Fremantle. 200m from the Swan River, 800m from the beach.

201 Queen Victoria St North Freo

How long has it had live bands playing there?
Since November 2002, official re-opening Jan 03. Previously THE CAVE bar but had not been in operation for 5-8yrs, before that it was a well known venue for hard blues style and big crowds on sundays

Is the venue public transport accessible?

Most definitely, the Transperth 99/98 circle route stops right out the front!

Is a short 800m walk from the north fremantle train station.

so you got two options!

What nights does the venue have original bands?
Swan Basement- regular- THurs- Sunday but sometimes wednesday..depending on event and time of year

upstairs is tues-sunday

What genres play at the venue?
all! one weekend we had JET play on Friday and on Saturday was KING MARONG and his african druming & Dancing show. really from metal to world music!

What hours is the venue open?
8-12am thurs
830-1am- fri & sat
5-10 sunday

How big is the venue?
medium size venue.

What nights does the venue have original bands?
Sunday but sometimes wednesday (depending on

event and time of year).

Northbank Bar (acoustic upstairs) is tuesday to Sunday.

How do you get a gig there?
it is much easier if you can hit me with a line up, then i can just hand over a date.

If you want your band in a bill, then I either have to build the line up for you or find a spot to slot you in (that suits your music)

> Contact:nigel
> Phone:93352017 (mondays)
> Address:201 Queen Victoria St Nth Fremantle

Blast From The Past – Three Orange Whips

The story starts off in 1996. A friend in my TAFE class was telling me about her brother’s band.

‘They were in the Campus Bands competition and they arrived in time for their set only for the guitarist to realise that he had forgotten his guitar. He went home to get it but by the time he got back it was too late’

‘What are they called’ someone asked

‘Three Orange Whips’ My friend replied

After hearing a few stories about this band, I finally got to see them in June 1997 at the Rosemount Hotel. I can remember them their sound was a mixture of punk and rock. I quite liked it even if it was bloody loud. I thought the singer had a stange but innovative way of dancing. I also remember the bass player, Graeme falling over while playing.

In October I was reading Xpress and found out that the Whips were supporting Beaverloop at their Cd Launch. So I called my friend Tracy and she said I’ll ask (my brother) Graeme about it.

I heard ‘Are we playing with Beaverloop? No one told me.”

The gig was at the Ozone Bar in Northbridge. We got their as the band was setting up. James the guitarist had forgot his guitar strap so he had to borrow one of Brad from Beaverloop. By this time I had seen the band a few times and the songs were becoming familiar. I was singing along to ‘Fuck The Salad’ (you don’t forget a line like that) and noticed that the person next to me me was singing along to.

Over the summer, The Whips began to gig regularly playing most weeks. The most memorable one was at the Aberdeen on a Sunday. it was time for them to go on stage, only they had no idea where the singer, Dan was.

They got up on stage and decided to play the first song instrumental. It was pretty boring without vocals. They obviously realised this because on the next song, the guitarist started singing and towards the end of the song, Dan came running into the pub and hops onto stage, getting glares from his bandmates. At the end of the song, Dan says ‘hello. We are the three orange whips, welcome to the aberdeen’

James replies ‘Yeah welcome to the Aberdeen DAN’

in March 98, the Whips got to support Custard at the Grosvenor Backroom playing two shows – the allages in the afternoon and the overage gig in the evening. Best quote from that show was when the Whips’ Drummer Besty got up to the mic and said

‘I’d like to apologise for my band being so crap’

With the gigs increasing, the band became motivated. I was told one Sunday at the Swanny ‘Apparently We are going to record.’ by Graeme. That was also the night, where we picked up his moped and moved it halfway across the hotel carpark hiding it by a tree. He came out looking very confused. He did find it – I can’t remember if we ever told him we’d moved it.

I got given a copy of the recording on tape by Tracy. It wasn’t released and I was told by someone it was a demo. I was a bit confused at the time what a ‘demo’ meant. Though I liked the recording so much that remember emailing to Heath Bradby Jebediah’s manager and I got a reply saying ‘please don’t fucking send me big files, I was downloading my email on my laptop through my mobile.’ Oops. Fortunately he accpeted my apology. I won’t say what he said about the song…

Lots more gigs including a 70’s night where they covered among others ‘Heart of Glass’ by Blondie and ‘Suffragette City’ by Bowie. The Heart of Glass cover became so popular that at a show with Eskimo Joe and Love Camp 7, about a dozen of the Whips friends went down the front and started chanting for it. They gave in and played it, only this time Dan didn’t have his wig that he wore at the70s night.

This was also the first time I saw Love Camp 7 play with whips. Who they played many a show with in the next two years. They became good friends with each other and recorded a cover of each’s other songs. Love Camp recorded ‘French Movie’ and the Whips recorded ‘Smashomaniac’. It was to be released on Vinyl as this quote from Bubblehead Zine says:

The discography of Love Camp 7 will expand greatly in 1999. The forthcoming album Smell the glove will be released by Trend Is Dead in the USA, and they will get songs on a couple of compilations. Most insteresting is a split vinyl EP with 3 Orange Whips called ‘My three and a half inches is bigger than yours’.

The Whips debut cd launch was held in December of that year. Entry to gig included a showbag (nothing to do with Glenn Musto) which included a cd, stickers, gig posters, a Three Orange Whips sticker and a cigarette.

The Grosvenor was packed that night, half of Bunbury must have been there. I don’t think you’d ever see a band so happy as that night. It was almost as if they’d never record a cd let alone have a packed gig to launch. The night finished off with an encore of Heart Glass with the whole room singing along at one point and Dan holding the Mic stand out into the crowd so it could pick up the noise better.

The cd wasn’t recorded as well as i hoped. So first listens were disappointing but it became a regular once I got used to the sound. I review it for their webpage at some point. My favourites were ‘Foundry Promenade’ the backyard bbq anthem ‘Fuck The Salad and of course ‘French Movie’.

In January the band opened the Warped Festival at Claremont Showgrounds, one of the few lucky bands that got to play on the mainstage indoors while the other local bands played outside in the 40 degree heat. The whips were quite excited and Dan had come prepared. Knowing that people throw things around at festivals, he brought out the cricket bat and asked people to throw empty drink bottles at him. In between songs, it provided quite entertainment to see how far he could hit the plastic bottles. The game ended before the last song and as they kicked into Fuck The Salad, someone threw a baked bean can and sconed Dan on the head. Luckily he was okay.

There were plenty more memorable gigs in 99. They played on a really good lineup called ‘Ripper 99’ which turned out to be a fizzer when James had his guitar nicked. So they organised a show with two of the bands to raise money for a new one called ‘Ripped Off 99’.

In August, a friend of mine, Belinda had a birthday show at the Grosvenor Back Room. It was the first time I’d seen some of the bands. Jed Whitey who looked like Spinal Tap and another bands which featured Genge from RTR on percussion. This was also the night where I went onstage with the band during ‘Fuck the salad’ to dance in whips style.

Perhaps the best show I ever saw was when the Whips got to play at Perth Metros at a republican benefit gig. Playing on such a big stage, with a classy PA. Meant a) they sounded fantastic and b) it provided a setting for antics. Dan used all three mics during the gig and proceed to throw each one over and the bizarre thing was their was stage crew to pick up the mic and fix them up. I’m sure he did half a dozen times. A classic whips moment.

In 2000 they released their second EP ‘Ladies and Gentlemen’. It turned out to be the last time I saw them with Graeme. Dan announced one song and Graeme asked him ‘how does that one go?’ Dan had a toy in his hand at the time and threw it at him in disgust. The toy had been earlier shown to the crowd – a plastic penis.

The cd was a huge improvement in sound quality but it was half left over songs that didn’t make the first ep, ones that were on the original demo. Highlights were ‘Tina Rock Arena’ and ‘Roger’s Chest’. They shouldn’t have tried to get ‘Owilde’ on the radio it was probably the crappiest song on there.

The cd launch was the last time I saw the band before Graeme left the band. Not long after they headed to Melbourne and unfortunately I didnt’ get to see any of their farewell shows called ‘Sayonara Saturdays’. It felt like an end of era for me as far as Perth Music goes as a number of bands left for Melbourne at the same time including the whips, there was full scale deflection, Love Camp 7 and John Butler.

The Whips did return for shows while they were in Melbourne. All were good nights particularly the last show at the Amplifier in 2003. It was just like old times and quite fitting that they finished with ‘French Movie’ ‘Tina Rock Arena’ and ‘Fuck The Salad’ There are certain bands which impact your life – supporting you through tough times and providing a soundtrack through the happy times. Three Orange Whips were one of those bands for me.